Creator Economy

Post about current Creator Economy system bugs and feature requests. Feedback for both the Creator Economy open-beta client and website Marketplace features should go here.
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Allow free avatars in Avatar Marketplace
TL;DR Let creators make their public Avatars listed in the Avatar Marketplace for a price of 0V/. The Idea The new Avatar Marketplace feature is a great addition for creators who want to sell their Avatars. But what if a creator want to "sell" (but "share" would be a better word) for free? Let me explain: I'm an Avatar creator and I don't personally like the idea of "selling" an Avatar, I prefer sharing them to the community. I like the idea of having a menu where people can find, try, and select an Avatar within the VRChat menu, like this Avatar Marketplace. So the idea is simple, let an Avatar creator share Avatars for free, meaning it's not the idea of buying an Avatar, but rather ability to directly select it. Implementation One proposition is to add a new field in the Avatar dictionary. The key would be something like "listed", and the value could be a boolean (True/False). And the value would be False by default. It would only work on a "public" avatar, not a "private" avatar. If the value is True, then the Avatar will be listed in the Marketplace for a price of 0V/ . The buttons will be different, instead of "buying" the Avatar, you could just select it If the value is False (by default), it means that the only way to get this avatar, is like today, select if from an Avatar Pedestal (or from the API), and it will not being listed in the Avatar Marketplace Also, if this feature is being implemented inside the VRChat API, Avatar search worlds could continue existing, using now the official way to search for Avatars. Making this feature official, could prevent unwanted exterior Avatars information database to scrap and grab Avatar information, making them deprecated. History It's been years that players are looking for a way to get "public" Avatars from a sort of a search engine. Several solutions has been created over years, like public databases that store VRChat avatars information and where you can access with third party applications, or from an Avatar search world for example. VRChat did not implement an "Avatar Search" feature inside their menu for a reason: Avatars creator want players to came in their world, in order to get them from an official Avatar Pedestal. But let be honest, today, we have "Avatar Search Worlds", that are not always up to date, but they are one of the most visited worlds in VRChat, because people want to find Avatars following keywords (type, category... e.g: furry...) or from a specific author (like an author a player want to follow) Also, some Avatar Creator are not always up to create a world just for storing Avatar Pedestals. Inconvenient Making an Avatar listed in the Avatar Marketplace would make the "favorite" list feature compromise, as it could become a way to avoid store an Avatar in the player favorite list as it could be easily accessible in the Avatar Marketplace. Conclusion So, we could make an "listed" option for Avatar Creator to make their "public" avatars listed for FREE in the Avatar Marketplace, in order to share them to the community, while "unlisted" "public" Avatars would not being listed in the Avatar Marketplace. Again, the idea is to not have the same behavior as "buying" an Avatar, but rather the ability for a player to find and select and avatar for free from the Avatar Marketplace.
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Allow the ability to also provide source files.
It's extremely important to me as a creator to be able to provide the source files to my buyers, it allows them the freedom to do as they want with an avatar. The argument against this has been creators don't want to have to give support to users of the product, or the potential piracy of their avatars. However, there are a multitude of arguments against this. Firstly, the biggest is that it can simply be optional, if creators do not wish to provide source files they can simply not, and creators who do want to, like me, can. Secondly, the argument of the pressure of support feels very tone deaf. Either way creators will be pestered by support whether they provide files or not. The FAQ states we can provide source files, barring the issues with that we will be pestered for source files, especially when there are updates to the avatar. Currently right now I primarily sell on Jinxxy where buyers are able to get the source files. Personally, I have not had a single person contact for support except once when someone found an issue with the avatar that had to be fixed. (For reference, I've had around ~100 sales since posting my most recent avatar on all platforms I've sold on.) So this largely seems to only be an issue with either certain demographics of buyers, certain avatars that actively have issues, or maybe even creators providing way more support than they probably should be. Kind of a subjective conclusion but still. Largely, as it currently is. Not being able to provide source files alongside the uploaded avatar on the platform will be detrimental to creators such as myself who are perfectly fine with sharing source files, who will now have to handle support for buyers who may want the source files. I don't believe creators should be forced to share source files, but giving creators the option to do so is a perfectly reasonable expectation.
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if you think I'm right about this upvote this and if you don't comment
Instead I think if people are interested in buying avatars it shouldn't be the first thing that pops up even when they're a new beginner yes you should tell users about it to get them to interact with the market and the economy but people rather buy the avatars and have access to the files if they want to modify them I think there should some consideration with creators on what avatars are allowed to be downloaded because you own it. When you buy it on here you don't own it at all vrchat does So if your account gets banned or deleted those avatars you spent your money on Are no longer accessible you don't have to files to reupload them So there are two things I want to be considered for the Avatar Market To let creators have an option To allow downloads of their Avatar so people could edit and modify them like they would be doing on their own store like gumroad and stuff The Avatar Market should not be the big selling point of avatars at all it should be the last thing it should be said that you do not need to do this and it should not definitely be not the first thing that pops up when I click my avatar menu In my personal opinion I feel like anything that you download you should own that thing Cuz it all it takes is your account getting banned But also vrchat themselves should be trying to educate the community on how to upload avatars through unity anybody could With enough time and effort and specially having third party options To upload avatars to it really does beg the question on why they haven't decided to try to teach the community who actually have the computing resources to do this And upload Avatar themselves Edit:Also the creators themselves Should be getting a way higher pay cut At least 90%, but i've heard it's at least 50/50
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