Age Verification Feedback

I'm unsure whether this is something that depends on the plan VRChat has with Persona or something else, but after some digging it appears that Persona supports more methods of verification than VRChat lets on. To make an example of my personal situation here in Denmark, I would like to verify my age but I simply cannot. Why not? Because when I go to verify my age, I get 3 options for providing an ID that must be physical: Driver's license (this is not a priority for me, and costs upwards of 1.5k EUR to acquire) Passport (also not a priority for me as I don't travel, and costs 300 EUR to acquire) Residency permit card (only given to immigrants, which I am not one) Normally, our identification is all done digitally with an app. We don't have a standardised national physical ID card that is just an ID card. We do have municipal ID cards which are cheap to acquire, but these aren't standardised and, as far as I can tell, not supported by Persona. With database verification we could leverage digital ID, but VRChat doesn't have this option despite it being supported by Persona: https://help.withpersona.com/articles/63nOZwnvR8lmhzIWEkWSm0/ I'm sure Denmark isn't the only country in this situation with Persona and that I'm not the only person who would like to verify but cannot for similar reasons. If the plan is to lock certain content tags behind age verification, then the most common identification method in any given country should be able to be used for age verification.

Hey Team! Lately we are seeing more worlds add in "age checking" at the entrances of worlds (even with the option for AV only instances available). It would be very useful if world creators had access to call on AV through Udon to help groups run their lobbies a bit more smoothly and help provide them that extra level of security. Being able to access AV through Udon, lets world creators do some of the following as example: The option for groups to auto allow AV users into the world, while stopping non AV users at the door to manually check. You could provide AV users with an icon above their head. (With a toggle hopefully). Let AV users toggle on game modes that may be more targeted towards 18+ users. Restrict certain area's of a world. Restrict users from entering a world which main theme is adult/"NSFW"/ or not suitable for below -18. ( 'Age Gating' should cover this already, but at the moment you don't need to prove ID when making your VRChat account, so this would solidify it) Automated content adjustments for different age groups -18 & +18 instead of blocking younger users fully or non-verified, worlds could dynamically adjust gameplay, visuals & mechanics. Helpful in overall moderation tools for admins/groups. Enhanced trust for community worlds and create a more trustworthy environment. Improves the reputation of VRChat as a 'safer' social platform. I am sure there are many other examples/features that world creators can add that allows groups to run their lobbies more smoothly and safely, these were just a handful of ideas submitted by the community. Thanks!

Per the updated FAQ for the announcement of Age Verification, I would like to suggest a hard limit of at least 1 or at most 2 alts who are eligible for the same age verification. People may have alts for various reasons, some being that they may not want people who know their main VRC account name (especially if that name exists outside of VRC on other platforms) and may not want to engage with the more hardcore gated content (cough18+STUFFcough) for fear of other users maliciously looking them up and then harassing them on other platforms or even irl. I realize that may be an extreme example, but I can imagine I am not the only one who has their VRC name as their other socials and tries to keep it as professional as possible especially those that are creators. And while you could just say... "Well. Then just verify your alt account." ...and I could just do that, but what if in doing so I lock my main account off from my favorite worlds and or avatars should those world/avatar creators put their creations behind Age Verification gates. I apologize in advance if this was hard to follow, I'm not the best at articulating my words, so I hope this made some sense... I would just greatly appreciate being able to keep my main and an alt with the same amount of access and not feel like I have a baby gate in my way on one or the other despite being a fully grown adult. -_-

In the Netherlands, organisations are only allowed to ask for a full, unobscured ID when their situation is specifically permitted by law. Otherwise, either the user or organisation has to block out the BSN and passport photo. Does the process abide by these rules by blocking out said information before further processing or allowing the user to upload an image processed by KopieID? Or is there some sort of exception, making it that these rules don't apply for this use case? I'm looking forward to getting access to this feature, but don't want to run into issues because non-compliance causes stuff to be blocked or whatever. (See: https://www.autoriteitpersoonsgegevens.nl/en/themes/identification/passport-and-identity-card/copy-of-your-id-what-can-you-do#copy-id-without-statutory-obligation ) Watermarking is also recommended to minimise risk, unless a clean copy is required by law, but this is not mandatory, so that does not worry me that much.

Please add the pre-existing support inside of Persona for IS 18013-5 mobile identification. This protocol allows for Users to submit data with minimal data sharing, only exposing the relevant parts of the identification to the service. I don't find Persona as an organization trustworthy with the image and text data that my ID contains. The municipality within which I reside has a robust mobile identification platform that already functions within most of the airports in my state for identification. Persona has a plugin advertised on their website for compatibility with this exact feature. It is by far the safest and most privacy conscious method of verifying age for the places that support it. I am not aware of whether or not this feature was supported by Persona when VRChat released the original age verification beta, but I would consider it to be the most important aspect of the Persona service to include if this program is to continue. https://withpersona.com/product/verifications/mobile-drivers-licenses https://www.iso.org/standard/69084.html

In both the original video and in the recent forum post you said you were likely to require age verification for gated content, e.g sexually suggestive avatars. Since most avatars in this game are atleast somewhat sexually suggestive, this will either create an immense pressure on people to hand over their ID to a third-party company (which is a horrible idea from a privacy standpoint). Or to just completely ignore the content gating system entirely. I foresee that people will just stop labeling their avatars as NSFW if you go through with this, rendering the content gating system useless. It will also create alot of social problems, where friends wont be able to see eachother's avatars, because some friends are more privacy conscious then others.

It seems like that there is a heavy implication that age verification is only for instances only. I would like to see the option for group owners to additionally enforce age verification to join / retain membership for their group. Example scenario: I'm a group owner with five hundred members. At some point I would like to make my group require age verification in order for users to retain membership in the group. When requiring age verification, any member who has not verified their age on their VRChat account via Persona gets a notification stating that they have 7 days to verify, or else they will be automatically removed from the group.

This would cut out the persona middle man saving vrchat money for each verification and allow users to get verified without handing over government ids to a random third party that keeps said data for more than 6 months for somereason

I thought there was a canny for this already but I couldn't find it. I feel like the red for 18+ is a bit harsh and makes it feel a bit more scandalous than it actually is. I think changing it to purple or orange to mimic trust ranks would be a lot better and make it feel less like a marker you'd see on a sexually explicit website.

The automated system Persona uses fails to identify any form of ID I provide. Despite using every form of ID that’s available to me and trying it under different lighting conditions I get the same result. This system seems to have no way of falling back on some other form of age verification. The extent of customer support I’ve gotten on this subject so far is being told to try again. Are there plans to provide alternative methods of age verification so that people don’t get unfairly excluded through no fault of their own?