Expand Age-Gating to All Instance Types
Salbug
I’d like to propose an expansion of the age-gating feature to include other instance types beyond group instances. Not everyone has access to a group they can host events through, nor do some users typically host 18+ events in group instances; these events are usually held in private instances, such as Invite+. Allowing anyone to create an age-gated instance would potentially better serve the community, especially adults who prefer to interact with others in their general age group without needing to rely on group instances.
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Psykonuromancer
As our friends here have been pointing out, an Age Verification System, by itself, is not enough. The current system only allows individuals with a paid VRChat Plus subscription to create groups, or open group instances. While there are many groups, there are very few large public groups for adults, and even fewer who will open more than one instance. As such, the current environment still leaves most adults, age verified or not, with a lack of public age-gated instance to choose from. This makes "age verification" similar to purchasing a gift certificate with no place to spend it. While an Age Verification System may be a necessary first step in the right direction, it is only the first step. The ADULT CHILL SPOT is an adult group that has been working to resolve this issue with their Hosting Program. The ADULT CHILL SPOT offers non-plus users the opportunity to open group instances. They urge all 18+ age verified VRChat users to join their legion of 5000+ Members, and to assist in expanding their Hosting Program. Opening "Your World, Your Way", as a Host, is expected to bring a variety of gated public instances to the adult virtual landscape. As the ADULT CHILL SPOT Hosting Program expands, it plans to have a multitude of instances opened across the internet at the same time. Combining the Hosting Program to the Age Verification System should bring VRChat a lot closer to what our friends here have been hoping for.. World Optionaity and Age-Verified Security that more closely resembles the idea of VRChat For Adults. Please check out the ADULT CHILL SPOT Group and their Discord for more information!
ᴋᴀᴡᴀ
Legit request, I see no reason why group-less 18+ publics cannot exist.
Hackebein
ᴋᴀᴡᴀ because you can't moderate. It's not your instance. The world creator owns it for publics
ᴋᴀᴡᴀ
Hackebein why anyone should tho?
World creators rarely act as police in own worlds. Most of the time publics exists on its own without problems. It is basically being self-moderated.
If this works for general (non-adult) audience, why it should not work for adult audience?
Hackebein
ᴋᴀᴡᴀ that's not my point. I don't question human behaviour.
The only thing i say is that public are not owned by you. Therefore it shouldn't have anything you can controll of it. If there is anything, then the world owner should have to choose.
ᴋᴀᴡᴀ
Hackebein yea, I believe world owner should be able to choose if those group-less 18+ publics allowed or disabled in their world.
Hackebein
> Expand Age-Gating to All Instance Types
I think Public should always be 13+ like any public place in the real world. GroupPublic can be moderated/gated and therefore could be 18+.
FoxSasha
Hackebein But in the case of if I create the instance and moderate it since im the instance owner, I think it should be an option. Example: Some businesses after hours require 18+ to visit (Round 1 does this, because arcade, but also bar) Still a public place but managed.
Hackebein
FoxSasha you are not the owner of a public instance. the world creator is always the owner of any public instance.
FoxSasha
This, while groups are great, being able to host an age-gated instance might actually encourage people to use friends+ or maybe even public if there a gated public instance to just be social with. It heavily comes down to flat out, adults wanna talk to other adults, not always "content" related things.