Please allow age verification on AT LEAST ONE other account.
berserkbrandee
Per the updated FAQ for the announcement of Age Verification, I would like to suggest a hard limit of at least 1 or at most 2 alts who are eligible for the same age verification.
People may have alts for various reasons, some being that they may not want people who know their main VRC account name (especially if that name exists outside of VRC on other platforms) and may not want to engage with the more hardcore gated content (cough18+STUFFcough) for fear of other users maliciously looking them up and then harassing them on other platforms or even irl. I realize that may be an extreme example, but I can imagine I am not the only one who has their VRC name as their other socials and tries to keep it as professional as possible especially those that are creators.
And while you could just say...
"Well. Then just verify your alt account."
...and I could just do that, but what if in doing so I lock my main account off from my favorite worlds and or avatars should those world/avatar creators put their creations behind Age Verification gates.
I apologize in advance if this was hard to follow, I'm not the best at articulating my words, so I hope this made some sense...
I would just greatly appreciate being able to keep my main and an alt with the same amount of access and not feel like I have a baby gate in my way on one or the other despite being a fully grown adult. -_-
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Lexibug
It is absolutely insane that you can only verify one account. This has quickly turned from an "age verification" feature, into an "alt identification" "feature". This not only prevents people that are 18+ from joining 18+ events, it also outs them as an alt to everyone because they are unable to verify.
VRChat seriously needs to think this through.
DayDreamer11
Yea, the extreme content gating, single use ID, and data retention (despite it being illegal and impossible for some countries to do so) is going to deter many very regular-long term adult users from continuing to play and to be cut off the game.
This "game" is so important to many communities and while I'm in favor of making it a safe place for adults and children, this is not the way to do it.
I've been a part of this community since 2018 and I've seen it go through stuff like this. I am disabled and this is the only way I can have a decent social life. This worries and disappoints me so much
blademasterzero
being able to link my secondary account would be a huge relief, I'm a photographer in vrc but i cant afford a beefy pc to actually play in vr, so i use my quest headset and a separate pc account to actually take the photo's so i dont lose quality.
having content gating affect that would mean that I'd need to ensure all of my personal avi's are also not marked in the content gating system and for obvious reasons i really dont want that
i definitely think having some kind of alt linking system would be good, that way people who want to actually verify on both accounts can do so safely and bad actors looking to abuse it can be caught and banned on both accounts
Genesis
Perhaps VRChat could set up an interface through the website to link a limited number of secondary accounts to a primary account for the purposes of age verification so only the primary account needs to be verified.
Minouchka
This ! As someone who experiences different moods, I’d love the ability to use an alt to go mute and relax in a +18 locked environement without being spammed by 10+ requests or having to stay on "red" status all the time. I think allowing at least one alternate account would be a great solution.
This could be implemented through a system that groups accounts or allows users to create different profiles under the same ID in one account.
It would minimize issues with multiple accounts of the same user being unmanaged while ensuring that any Terms of Service violations are enforceable across both profiles.
Pepperpop
The entire "single use ID" system actually needs to go. It's ineffective anyway because people selling or handing out verified accounts is a pretty unlikely scenario. It's much simpler for kids to use an unused ID (i.e. their parents) and a photo they could easily obtain to fraudulently verify, and single-use ID won't prevent that. Meanwhile this severely punishes actual adults by making their ID a single-use golden token and if anything ever goes wrong with their account, they can never legitimately verify on VRC ever again. It also exposes everyone to data theft danger by making them perpetually store sensitive ID info on a service that's a very appealing target for hackers. It's simply not worth it.
Raphiiko
This. While I'm massively in favor of an age verification system like this (and access to certain places/content being gated behind it), limiting users to verifying one account at max is imo a big hit on anonymity within VRChat.
Doing this makes a lot of sense from the perspective of having age verification be as effective as possible, but in turn, people who use alts for anonymity's sake won't be able to access content anonymously anymore if they choose to verify their main account: You're giving them an ultimatum: Drop the anonymity, or lose access on your main.
VRChat could allow multiple accounts to be linked to share age verification, or allow for multiple profiles on a single VRChat account.
Miss Widgey
This, I usually stick to private instances on my main account due to issues with privacy and use an alt for general public hopping and engaging with others.
I don't want to have to choose which account to limit my access to various events and communities I care about because I can't verify more than one account.
Hackebein
While i would like to verify alt accounts for numerous reasons (privacy, instance logging, recording, moderation, ...), too. This alt accounts are full user accounts. Which could be used by any other user (I think there is no way to tight your accounts together to prevent this). This is a bypass in age verify in some way. But this is more an account sharing issue.
On the other side. just use multiple different IDs to verify multiple accounts. Just that many people might not be able to get multiple IDs. People are already creative.
Asking Friends, parents or ask people to sell there account after they stopped playing VRChat. Especially after content gating will be in place.
What is in 1-2 years when there are VRChat accounts on ebay with 18+? Is this how long we need to wait for it?
K_Tyras
This is honestly one of my main concerns. I personally have a mute alt account that I use anytime I don’t feel like dealing with my usual interactions. It’s nice to just go back to how I started the game sometimes and do my own thing running around Publics without anyone knowing who I am.
My concern with not being able to verify that account is I essentially lose access to everything, so then there’s no reason to use it anymore despite wanting to. Even then, that’s just the case for me personally. Others will need an alt account for various reasons people have already mentioned in here, so having no way to verify them will cause massive issues.
I think one solution would be to somehow share that verification with your other accounts. That way it’s still only one verification, and it would connect those accounts together on VRChat’s end so any action taken will affect them all. This also ends the problem of ban evasions because now they can’t simply hop onto their alt since it was taken down as well. Obviously I’m no expert so a proper solution would need to be made. But I fully believe that making it impossible to verify alt accounts is a bad call.
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