if you got kicked from a group public, then it either was the mod tripping out but it seems unlikely (i can tell because your grammar seems good) or it was something not ok that you said, or an avatar that was not ok, or some troll got the staff to kick you out for no reason.

I have been discussing the related topic of why I think world authors shouldn't have moderation privileges in all instances of their world for 3 years now, in remove-world-creator-moderation-powers. While I might have become more willy to compromise on what were to happen with "Public" instances, this is a change that I hadn't even considered and I fully welcome it.

If the random person that made the instance is such a bad person that they start power tripping, I fully believe that almost all of us would simply have left the instance by the time their supposed power trip leads them to kicking us. So if anything, this would lead us to get out of bad instances faster and to find a new better one or make our own instances.

Not to mention that you will likely still find plenty of Public instances where the owner simply left hours ago. But maybe it would be useful for that to be highlighted somewhere in the instance list UI?

Most of all, I see this whole feature as a really good thing for world where the owner of the instance might be considered the host. Such as manually run games or minor event instances. This will allow new VRChat users to use those types of worlds and have some control over the instances without needing to get VRC+ and create a group.

i'll left that here

If VRChat wants to keep this feature anyways, at least make it optional, hide the option and make it off by default (and not persistent). Do not let anyone find it easily. It'll be the same as creating a friends+ instance, but public. Only those who needs it will search and find the option.

I have actively avoided going into group public instances because of the behavior from the moderators in them, constantly breathing down your neck willing to kick you for simply "looking at someone funny" or "having the wrong voice" or some nonsense like that. Not to mention VRChat putting these instances to the top of the world list by default so you're more likely to join those if not paying attention.

This update will make it even easier than it already was to get moderator tools in an instance as you won't need VRChat plus anymore to make a group. Previously they had mentioned they don't want to add AI labels to prevent targeted attacks and such, but with these new moderated publics people can do exactly that for ANYTHING at ANY TIME.

Quest user? Kicked. Mute? Kicked. Under 25? Kicked. OVER 25? Kicked. Transgender? Kicked. Have a boyfriend or girlfriend? Kicked. Doesn't have full body? Kicked.

I'm sure you get the point.

This would be the type of thing that would actually murder the game.

I have had issues where people have gatekept me from my own worlds via group instances that is a HORRIBLE idea

The devs have slowly stripping away mod power from actual world creators too, this is absolutely not going to help. Did you know they can’t mod group publics anymore? Or close instances?

This is a horrible idea, have the devs been to a public instance in the past years? Especially ones like black cat, it is full of trolls and everything. Adults already power trip in their group instances, what do you think a 14 year old will do with the power to kick or force mute?

Also the entire point of publics is that there is no moderation. If you want moderation go to a group public, don't bring that stuff into public worlds that will just ruin it.

I seriously struggle to imagine what made anyone think this was a good idea.

Did a VRChat dev go to a public instance they didn't like and think "man, I wish I could kick someone here"?

Moderation in public instances is hard, but it's supposed to be a democratic process. The entire point is that no one's specific opinions are supposed to matter more than others. A world owner at least has to maintain their world's reputation, so of course they won't abuse that power as much. A random though?

You'd have to live in a bubble to think that group instances are preferrable to the average player, one of the main complaints of newer players especially is that they get unfairly actioned against when going to "publics", not realizing that group public isn't actually the same as a public instance. In a group public, arbitrary people you don't know have full say over whether you get kicked regardless of your behavior.

If anyone thinks "Just make your own public instance" THAT'S THE PROBLEM. In order to avoid power control, you have to make your own instance where you get that same control over other people. Other people don't want a random (you) to be put in control, so they make their own instance. The result is smaller lobbies over fear of being overcontrolled, resulting in people not wanting to join those instances because they're too small. It means that no public instance will ever be free of discriminatory action.

I nor anyone else will be able to block a user ever again without having to worry that they secretly have full say over whether I get to stay in an instance with people I'm getting along with.