[1032] If a user blocks you, they are removed from the social menu
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blueasis
If a user blocks the room owner or world uploader, its impossible to kick them from your world or instance because they disappear from the social menu.
A group of toxic users joined my world in order to do no good, but alas I could not punish them because of an oversight in mechanic implementation.
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Lush
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South さうす
Lush: If this "feature" was a bug, please consider this ticket as well.
There is a nuisance user that you blocked in the past trying to forget the drama you had with him, and the owner of the newly built instance is that nuisance user. Such instances should be collapsed rather than hidden in Friend Locations ordered by friend count, and should be discreet and quiet enough not to upset the nerves of those looking at the friend list.
Seeing such instance that climb to the top of the list every day can be a very frustrating experience. In other words, you don't know what an uncontrolled user would do.
Even though there are many neutral friends around the instance owner who repeats self-righteous kicks based on likes and dislikes, it seems like it's someone else's problem "You shouldn't go to such an instance" "Unfriend neutral friends too" I got some useless advice.
If you reinstate their right to unfairly kick me, why do such dangerous instances appear at the top?
この「機能」がバグだったなら、同時にこのチケットにも配慮してください。
あなたがかつてドラマを避けもう忘れるためにブロックしたユーザーによって作成され、そのユーザーがインスタンスオーナーになっているならば、フレンドの数で整列されたFriend Locations で折りたたまれるべきであり、そして、フレンドリストを見ている人の神経を刺激しないように、控えめで静かでなければなりません。
毎日リストの最上位に上るインスタンスを見るのは、とてもイライラさせられる体験です。つまり、自制心のないユーザーならば何をするかは分かりません。
好き嫌いを基準とした独善的なkickを繰り返すインスタンスオーナーの周りに中立のフレンドがたくさんいるにもかかわらず、他人事のように「そのようなインスタンスには行くべきではない」「中立フレンドもunfriendしろ」という何の役にも立たないアドバイスを受けます。
彼らが私を不当にキックする権利をあなた方が復活させるのであれば、そのような危険なインスタンスはなぜ一番上に表示されるのですか？
DrBlackRat
If you are a Room owner you can still see them in the Here Tab of the Quick Menu. There is a small extra little category at the bottom, it's called something like
Users Who Blocked You
.DAG-XR
DrBlackRat: If they block you, you can't votekick them, especially in a public lobby. Same goes for when you block a user
EDIT: That bug was fixed.
Lush
tracked bug
blueasis
Lush: cool
DrBlackRat
blueasis: Better late than never lmao
South さうす
I think this is a difficult problem to determine the proper bounds.
However, the assumption that world owners are always justice and foolproof about ToS and Community guidelines is based on the doctrine of goodness.
If you are in Friends+, players who decide to spend their time in a space separate from the hostile world owner should avoid heavy-handed moderation that doesn't rely on the votes of instance participants.
There make sense in the advice that it is better to leave away from such the world owner in the first place, but if the instance is Friends+, there may be close friends who do not know anything, and the dictator's selfishness will be abused. Allowing nasty kick is posibilly violation of your right to meet your friends.
これは、適切な境界を決定するのが難しい問題だと思います。
ですが、世界の所有者は常に正義であり、ToS とコミュニティガイドラインに関して無謬であるという仮定は、性善説に基づいています。
Friends+ に参加している場合、敵対的なワールドオーナーとは別の世界線で生きることを決定したプレイヤーは、インスタンス参加者の投票に拠らない強引なモデレーションを避ける必要があります。
そんなワールドオーナーとはそもそも離れた方がいいというアドバイスには一理ありますが、もしインスタンスがFriends+だと事情を知らない親しい友人がいる可能性があり、独裁者のわがままを悪用されてしまいます。一方的で不快なキックを許可することで、友達と会う権利が侵害される可能性があります。
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Docteh
South さうす: Some world creators hang around the public instances as they have powers there. If you have problems with a world creator, unfriend them.
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Strun
I've noticed recently due to a few events that when a user blocks me within one of my own worlds two things happen:
1: They vanish from the Social List and are nearly impossible to track down quickly making it hard to moderate Malicious Users. I've not been able to track them down using the method of selecting a user and clicking the next button, instead I must know their name and find them through the Search Function on the social tab. By the time I can find them, if I have their name, it will usually be too late and people have been crashed.
2: A User can Block and then Unblock you causing the UI to not show them in the world but still allowing them to use malicious avatars that could freeze the use of the UI or crash you if your safety settings are not set up. All they would need to do then is keep a broken line of sight from the host.
I would like to be able as the Host/Creator of a world to see all users within an instance and be able to moderate them in case someone purposefully blocks the host with the intent to handicap their ability to remove and report users with ill intent. There have been several instances where a user will scout the room first and block me or I am asked to come remove a crasher or harassing player from a room but I am unable to due to the fact they block me first or the off chance I have blocked them prior.
Undertrash
Strun: You can see people blocking you at the bottom of the the quick menu's here tab when you're the world/instance owner
(The original post was made before the quick menu got updated)
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Strun
Undertrash: hrm, I'll need to look into that as I didn't see that tab when I had a person block me and start crashing quest users the other day. Granted, I wasn't in the quick menu
Shiguri
If you know someone is in the room who you have blocked, you can still use the
quick menu
to find them. That means to click on someone in the room and then cycle through players using the "Next" arrow until you find them.FloydianSound
Shiguri: nice, TY for the workaround, but this is a issue that should be addressed :)
squirbo
Shiguri: Wow that sounds like an oversight as well. You can discover blocked users through next/previous but not through the user list huh.
xxx_red_xxx
Shiguri: idk if they will still appear
Hitori Ou
It is indeed a problem, it leaves people exposed to situations where others can get away with harmful or disruptive behavior simply by blocking people and then do what ever they please without being detectable, just like when hackers hide them selves in order to spy on other players undetected.
It should be fixed.
gallium
Perhaps when a user is either the room owner or world uploader it negates this, but otherwise works as it does currently?
blueasis
gallium: This is the solution I imagine would work best.