New Character Controller for Worlds
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Fax
Players and world creators would appreciate a new character controller for VRChat worlds.
It should work mostly like VRChat's current character controller, but has a variety of improvements:
- Players can stand on moving platforms.
- Going upstairs and slopes is smoother.
- Players can get pushed around by the colliders.
- It's better at getting players unstuck from geometry.
- Udon has greater control over the character controller.
... And more!
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interested
Work on this feature is currently halted - we’re prioritizing other projects. That being said, we’ll let you know when this feature re-enters our roadmap.
I have update the post above accordingly.
Frenetic Furryǃ
Fax but why though it shouldn't be that hard to redo the controller 😭
the current vrchat controller afaik is one of the big things that cause performance loss when there is more then 7-8 players in a instance (or maybe im just misinformed on that idrk)
｜KitKat｜
Frenetic Furryǃ Doing it properly (like it deserves) requires time and attention. I don't want them rushing this feature.
Shaun
Fax Disappointed to see this halted but hoping it gets picked up again when the dev resources are available. It's definitely a feature that deserves polish
hdorriker
Frenetic Furryǃ You are not misinformed. The current character controller is an absolute nightmare to work with if you're trying to do anything interesting, requiring complex Udon apparatuses to do things as simple as (almost) move players together, and loads of active physics corrections to bring movement more in line with what players are expecting to see (to minimize motion sickness and increase comfort at lower frame rates). Updating the character controller (mostly by allowing us to get it the heck out of our way!) would enable many new types of worlds to become far more practical to make, and more accessible to more players across platforms, because it would dramatically simplify our code and also allow us to do more (long-established) gamedev tricks to optimize space like performant origin point shifting. This is not currently a priority at VRC, so hopefully if it ever is, then there will be some world devs around willing to build that out.
SplitScream
Any update?
Karet
the feature i am most excited for over anything else.
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DrBlackRat
Welp, I guess this is officially on the back burner again.
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GHOST_OP
Annnnnnnd it's dead...
Salbug
Salena
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Kaycie Shchi
How is this going to affect Udon prefabs that alter the current character controller for VRC? Prime example being Udon Airtime (https://github.com/squiddingme/UdonAirtime), a system that allows for greater mobility in worlds that allow it such as JSR Festival. Would the new character controller be able to work in tandem with these types of systems out the gate or would the prefab creators have to update these systems and have their worlds be broken for a while as a result? (Which I REALLY hope is not the case...)
hdorriker
Just sticking players to platforms (with a component) would be a good start and enable entire categories of gameplay which are currently either impossible or cannot be fully implemented in a comfortable way which is not broken by nearly every single Avatar modification out there. Even just this one functionality alone would create a huge amount of possibilities far beyond any feature added before.
Ericbazinga
hdorriker UdonPlayerPlatformHook can do this
hdorriker
Ericbazinga Indeed it can, but doing this in Udon is extremely wasteful of system resources since the same operation in native code runs tremendously faster. This functionality should have always been a component that can be added to a GameObject.
SplitScream
I wanted to suggest looking at the Assassins Creed VR player controller, it is so different and feels better compared to most VR games
Entorix
Is this going to have any affect on how colliders on avatars work (with regards to avatar "flight")? I know VRChat have said that they want to remove that "functionality" in favor of their own at some point, but many people would be disappointed if this broke that current working method without adding in a viable replacement.
Also, is this going to be the new default for existing worlds? Or will it be an optional toggle when making new worlds going forward?
DrakenStark
Was about to make a canny specifically for scalable player colliders. This will be exactly what I need for this:
`Squishy
I want to link this system and it's demo world by Prismic247, for consideration in this work on the character controller.
Whilst the system itself relies on typical ingenius but janky work arounds in true VRChat fashion, having accurate scaled collision feels so right. Being able to imersively crawl under a low space especially, rather than getting stuck on something far above your avatar, makes the current fixed collider we've all had to become accustomed to, just feel primitive and un-intuitively strange by comparison.
Thanks.
Shaun
As long as the fixed collider remains the default option for backwards compatibility, this would be awesome!
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