[858] Player isn't loaded into instance for them but others can see them
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Fionna
2019-09-15
Cyan's stream: https://youtu.be/aTFYWDQcsRM?t=2278
He is still in the Initializing screen, and talking to his stream chat. He then gets kicked to a new instance.
I see him in the instance and can see his IK and hear him. My stream:
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Tupper - VRChat Head of Community
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Closing due to age. If this is still an issue, please create a new item in the relevant Feedback board!
Enverex
This isn't new, I used to experience it at least several times a week loading into the Pug on live. People would see me appear, I'd seem to be "live" for them but in reality I'm still initializing and eventually just get booted back to a loading screen then into a new instance.
It's almost like it times out syncing everything already in the world because it was always busy instances that this happened in.
Tupper - VRChat Head of Community
Attempting to gather more information. Here is the precise case I am trying to see if can be replicated on Open Beta:
Client A: Frozen master
Client B: attempting to join
Client C: already in instance
When B joins instance, client C can hear B, even though B cannot see the instance. Client B eventually gets kicked from instance. Client C is still in instance and is fine.
Tupper - VRChat Head of Community
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Tupper - VRChat Head of Community
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Closing due to age and lack of reproduction.
Fusl
Tupper - VRChat Head of Community: This is still a problem and can be reproduced as soon as the master client becomes unresponsive and does not send any events. The player gets loaded into the instance, the logfile contains
Error - [VRCFlowManagerVRC] Master is not sending any events! Moving to a new instance.
Error - [VRCFlowManagerVRC] Did not recieve initial events
Log - [VRCFlowManagerVRC] Resetting game flow because "Failed to finish initial load": [TryAlternateInstance, SkipLogin]
The problem can be easily reproduced by making a second client join an instance while having VRChat.exe on the master client frozen/suspended (e.g. with Windows Sysinternals Process Explorer)
Tupper - VRChat Head of Community
Fusl: This occurs on Live as well with an unresponsive Master, and this is expected behavior when a master goes unresponsive.
Are you stating that the new behavior is that "joining user actually is in the instance with other users for a moment, but doesn't realize it (with voice and IK being sent), and gets kicked to a new instance eventually once their client determines master is unresponsive"?
Tupper - VRChat Head of Community
Is this still occuring on Beta after the latest update? Does this also occur in Live?
botiq
This happened to me on live too, initializing instance gets stuck with errors "[VRCFlowManagerVRC] Master is not sending any events! Moving to a new instance.", "[VRCFlowManagerVRC] Did not recieve initial events" and moves to a new instance. Only realized I am visible during the initialization screen when I saw a friend repeatedly appear and disappear while trying to connect to the world while having the same issue.
Aev
Do you have any logs from yours or Cyan's PC when this happened?
Fionna
Aev: I’ll see if I still have them and post tomorrow. We had many issues during the meetup with desync, instance joining breaking, and broken portals etc.
Fionna
Obvioulsy somewhat of a privacy issue. He did not realize he was visible/audible.