IP Grabbing
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Deine Mudder
Fix that you are able to grab peoples IP-Adresses with Clients.
Just remove the Steam ID System or hide it.
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Major Ocelot
just had a kid get my ip and threaten to ddos me and other shit thanks to this. while on stream. fix your fucking game.
Noe
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Feature for safety
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Potato Farmer 69
Yes we all know getting crashed and all that hurts. But you never addresed the people that get Doxed, this is a request for some feature that can help people protect their identity online.
Maybe you should listen to the people who make "non malicious" custom clients, cause those people made themselves unable to be Doxed or DDoS'ed. And FYI tupper. saying "your IP isnt private information" is not an argument to shut down a serious post.
Sorry for the grammar
Zer0ᵛʳ
how about just add community based moderation to actually ban all the client idiots out there and get rid of the source instead of this forth and back about how vrchat devs are not able to fix their own game...
xxx_red_xxx
Zer0ᵛʳ: This would allow streamers to get rid of anyone they don't like, including each other.
Svelsien
Imagine having your IP adress be public.
What a tragedy this is. We will never recover from this.
RIP vrchat playerbase, gone and forgotten.
Tupper - VRChat Head of Community
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IPs are not expected to be private information. Steam Networking is a peer-to-peer realtime networking service in use by many applications, including VRChat. If you want to keep your IP truly safe, we encourage the use of a VPN. We are investigating alternatives, but our recommendation stands for the moment.
Beep Beep Im a Sheep
Tupper - VRChat Head of Community: Sorry, but that just doesn't make sense. Having someones IP and knowing VRChats bad side, means people are gonna be DDOSsed or similar stuff. IPs shouldn't just be public to anyone to see. Using a VPN can get you banned from VRChat if you happen to get the same IP or whatever as a banned account. IPs should be private if the user decides to not want it publicly shared, telling someone to just get a VPN means they need to pay for extra programs in order to keep their info private in your game. Imagine someone streaming your game and getting their stream taken down by some hacker that grabbed his IP...
shiio
Beep Beep Im a Sheep: There is more and more Streamers (me included) getting hit offline actually. This is a serious Problem.
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Welsea
Tupper - VRChat Head of Community: Tupper, that is truly appauling. It doesn't matter what game you are playing, you shouldn't have to employ a VPN JUST to keep your own info safe from YOUR game. What kind of game developer encourages this? This game has so many people that are hungry for power. By not acting as soon as possible, you are advocating and promoting the idea that using an IP Logger, to obtain IPs and DDOS people amongst other things, is okay. That is not something you should want.
Nipeno
shiio: its not just streamers, some people will just give out random ips publicly and then... bye bye
Broseph Stinson
Tupper - VRChat Head of Community: According to EU GDPR, IP adresses ARE private information.
Chdata
Tupper - VRChat Head of Community: Recommending a vpn for the average user seems a bit of a stretch. Though there are listener tools that can be used to report DDoSers to the police for their real crimes. A friend of mines recommended wireshark.
Zer0ᵛʳ
Tupper - VRChat Head of Community: also not true, it is private information https://www.alstonprivacy.com/ecj-declares-ip-addresses-personal-data/
David Ashcraft
Tupper - VRChat Head of Community: that is If a VPN works I tried mine and It never connected
john Jane
Broseph Stinson Zer0ᵛʳ Welsea Beep Beep Im a Sheep: you guys are all idiots and need to look up what p2p networking is.
Also, broseph, what you're referring too has nothing to do with this... When you visit a web page, you give the web owners your IP. When you connect to a server, you give the server owners your IP and when you connect to other people.. which is what you do in vrchat.. you give them your IP.. The EU GDPR can't change how networking works lol. Don't want your IP publically visible? use a VPN service and give them your IP.. or setup a VPN server yourself. don't tell devs to fix shit they can't unless they switch to servers instead of p2p in which case you can start to pay for the game cus I doubt it'll stay free to play then.
ᴍᴀsᴏɴᴇxᴇ
john Jane: i mean moderators are allow to see your ip address (sure) but doesn't mean they also have the right to ddos. Just doesn't make sense.
Dafirex
Note that even if they fix it, there are numerous other ways to grab a person's IP outside of VRchat and a Steam ID can be literally looked up online
And afaik the IP thing is from steam voice calls if you pick up since it's peer-to-peer
Floppiii
Fix this please!
Chdata
After a little conversation I learned:
- Linking your steam ID to VRChat has a vulnerability that can lead to your IP and SteamID being grabbed.
- You should be safe if that SteamID is not linked...?
SteamID linking should be taken down until fixed?
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Keeping in mind that SteamIDs are easily grabbable if someone knows you on steam, via sites like steamidfinder, and that I don't suspect there's a way to easily get people's IPs through steam alone.
PoweredByte
Chdata: just run VRChat without Steam, then youre safe
Chdata
PoweredByte: yes, I found out later that the steam linking doesn't matter, just running the game with steam does
john Jane
Chdata: has nothing to do with steamID being linked. vrchat uses peer to peer networking. your IP is being broadcast to whoever you connect with so use a vpn if you care about that.
Broseph Stinson
For the love of god fix that!