An “Invisible” Online Status
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Sonicgott
It would be beneficial for us to have a social status set to “invisible,” where we would be seen as offline, and, just like the red DND status, we could only join in on others when requesting.
Sometimes we need moments to ourselves, and sometimes other people don’t understand that red means “I’m busy.” Aside from also preventing services from Discord reporting that we’re in VRChat.
Say we’re working on world projects, debugging, streaming, having private moments with close friends, I believe the ability to be invisible and appear as offline would help further the security and personal well being of some players.
For a few of us who are introverted, some people will bug you despite being red, and it can be irritating. It’s not that we don’t care, it’s that we need to get some stuff done.
I understand that there are potentially negatives to this, but I feel the positives will outweigh those by quite a bit.
Invisible statuses have been seen in other messaging services in the past, such as ICQ and others.
I’d ask that you consider it. If this has already been suggested, let me know,
Justin “Sonicgott” Reese
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DarkSwordsman
I still am personally against this feature. The feature is rooted in insecurity. I would suggest people be more honest with their friends and weed out bad actors in their lives. It's the only true path forward.
__Ray
People arguing this would make the game a ghost town and make people more "anti-social" make no sense. How would this be functionally different than being on red? If you're on red all the time, you're already not receiving invites, not receiving requests, completely inaccessible by your friends.... So what's the difference? What makes being on red more "social" than being on invisible?
The simple answer is that there is no difference. The only difference between being on red and being on invisible is that
you get to monitor whether or not I'm online
. That's creepy!The reason why invisible status should be implemented is because all VRChat users should be afforded a basic level of privacy. It's not always someone elses business to know if I'm online for a wide variety of reasons that
I shouldn't have to justify
. Invisible status is something that is super common in games and social platforms. It's there for a reason!Please, please devs, implement this into VRChat. I know there are a lot of comments in opposition, but the amount of likes on this request trounces them by a massive margin. The comments in opposition hardly have a lot of likes on them either. Please don't let a loud minority trounce on peoples privacy. Thank you.
DarkSwordsman
__Ray If you are worried about any friends you have being creepy, you can remove and block them.
I genuinely think every problem people have with not having an invisible status can be solved with both:
a) removing those friends
b) making a second VRChat account
__Ray
DarkSwordsman
It's not just about creepy friends, the creepiness comes from the idea that anyone can see my online status in a situation I wouldn't want them to. This has implications and nuance beyond just people being intentionally creepy. But yes, if someone were actually creepy, it's actually a net good to give people more options to deal with that, even if blocking them is more optimal. If "block everyone who gives you issues" was sacred advice that always worked, we would no longer have social issues. That's not the world we live in.
Also, making a second VRChat account is actually an asinine suggestion. In order to have privacy online I have to go through the process of making a second account? Logging out and back in with a terrible VR keyboard, losing my existing Inventory, VRC+, Friends List, Age Verification (which you can't simultaneously verify on an alt account by the way) etc? If this is the option players are expected to perform, might I suggest we just cut the BS and add invisibility status for everyone? Seems much simpler...
As I mentioned before, there is no functional difference between always being on red and being invisible, so people should have the option to be invisible. Everyone should have basic options for privacy, none of us should have to justify that to anyone else. It's genuinely eyebrow raising how so many people obsessively want to see if their friends are online, even if said friends don't want to interact with them. Especially considering how VRC already has problems with bad actors, to put it mildly.
artGhostt
I'm not opposed to this idea. Furthermore, I think the Red status should just be the Invisible status and people should have the choice to be on it.
However, I'm afraid that many people on Orange will switch to Invis instead, as it could seem more enticing. It kind of incentivizes people to be more antisocial and to avoid talking to others. Your friends list will appear somewhat inactive.
I want the opposite! I want the platform to incentivize people to meet others. I want people to feel like it's also okay to talk to their friends right now.
Just a small concern I have.
Kannako
The toxicity levels of this reply section are off the charts and imo prove how needed of a feature this really is.
Hallow O' Kin
Respectfully, a bad, bad idea for a social game, arguably different in context to Discord, which isn't a game platform. Becomes the new Orange, and now you don't even know if you can request to join that one person who never quite seems to be online...
EvolvedAnt
Invisible mode, the perfect, least friction, way to cheat in VRC relationships. This surely won't be abused... At least the current method of having an alt account has friction that makes it less likely to be used. No thanks.
Friends that bug friends when they use DND, even after expressing to them that you don't appreciate being bothered about using DND, aren't good friends at all, and the entire platform shouldn't need to suffer as a whole just because some people are too timid to call friends out when they try to shame or bug you over utilizing DND.
I've had zero issue with using DND with a custom status message so people know to leave me alone if I need away time.
Biajus
Ciao ragazzi, vorrei chiedere ai creatori di VrChat di mettere un nuovo livello di provacy. Visto che la piattaforma è ormai grande, succede spesso purtroppo che se entri e vuoi stare in privato, chi ti segue se ne accorge e anche se non sanno dove sei con il pallino arancione o rosso, sanno però che sei dentro e a volte porta a litigi e stalking. Dovete dare la possibilità di diventare invisibili come fa Meta, anche se si è dentro la piattaforma devi risultare offline se lo vuoi. Per favore diciamolo tutti di integrare urgentemente questa caratteristica.
madcaker
I don't get the hatred for this feature.
How exactly does not wanting someone to know you're online imply cheating or insecurity or a terrible friendship?
Sometimes I just don't want to announce what I'm doing to everyone because they're not involved in it. I am entitled to my own privacy not because I have something to hide but because I simply don't feel like sharing.
The "this will make VRC less social" arguments make no sense either. This is exactly the same as DND except people don't know that you're playing. This makes zero difference in how people interact on VRC at all.
Shadsterwolf
I'm surprised this isn't implemented yet...
All other social platforms has this feature...
I just want to TEST IN PEACE
Testing avatars or worlds without making someone feel bad and obligated to message them back that I'm only testing and will be closing/opening vrchat randomly. Swapping to an Alt as the only option isn't ideal as you also want friends to join you to show off or help you test.
DarkSwordsman
Shadsterwolf Go on red, set your status to "AVATAR TESTING", problem solved.
You can't worry about making people feel bad. That's their own problem for not respecting your boundaries.
Torimaku
If there was ever a feature that would kill the game ( or atleast the soul of the game) it would be this.
That this was even asked for highlights a very large issue; far too many people just default to orange nowdays, never bother going off of it.
Going on red is literally full privacy mode already. You can also set discord up to exclude vrchat from activity reporting, or just close discord entirely.
If you are really that concerned with being seen online by certain people, just remove them at that point. Or do what the majority of people like this do, and make an alt to avoid all social situations outside of alts.
Ive also noticed a very large overlap of support for the invisible status, and support for vrc verifying multiple accounts on 1 id. Nice way of outing yourselves there
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