100の人: A PC is much, much more powerful than any standalone VR headset. You can't just say they should have the same experience when they simply arent the same. VRC is already quite taxing on the Quest with its currently VERY restricted limits.

The main issue is, VRChat is a very unpredictable environment. Worlds have vasty different performances on Quest, and player count within a lobby is unpredictable too. They have to set the limits in a way that works in the worst possible scenarios for overall stability for every user.

That is just the way it has to be, no surprise since its mobile hardware. And not even the most powerful mobile hardware availble. The latest 2022 smartphone flagships are much more powerful than a Quest 2 for example.

BigSoulja: This is not to say that they should offer the exact same experience.

Certainly VRChat is very unstable compared to other social VR platforms, but I do not think that is a reason to give up on efforts to support Quest.

In particular, VRChat, along with the aforementioned props non-support, has left cross-platform support completely up to the user, and that policy is unlikely to change in the future. If that is the case, I think that the interface for that should be provided to users.

100の人: But they haven't given up efforts to support Quest? It wouldn't surprise me if there are more active Quest Standalone players than PCVR and Desktop combined. The hardware is simply too limited and the current limits set are in my opinion, completely appropriate.

Yes, the Quest could handle more things in a controlled environment. Better avatar shaders, larger avatar file size, more supported Unity components etc. But there is no viable way to scale the things you see, and the fidelity of avatars shown based on things like player count and world optimisation. The current solution of keeping things very limited is the best solution. Because it just works 99% of the time in a user friendly way.

You need to remember the Quest Standalone platform is not for enthusiasts. I would argue that PC is. The Quest is essentially a console and it needs to offer a good experience out of the box. Most Quest VRC players will not understand how to optimise the game by changing settings, limiting who they see and so on. VRC needs to be a very consistent experience on Quest, which is something they don't have to worry about nearly as much on PC because of its much higher specification potential. We can scale our hardware up to meet any demand.

BigSoulja: I understand a restriction with the meshes and the materials, but the audio is not as heavy to run as the things that I mentioned before. An audio source per avatar won't make the quest explode.

WofFo_o: actually, it is. Running multiple audio sources on Quest is very taxing. You can actually crash quest players intentionally just by having too many players in an instance all talking at the same time. Converting bits into audio data uses resources, more than you would think.

BigSoulja: Wow, i was misinformed,sorry!

WofFo_o: you're forgiven, it's okay!