Add co creator(s) to a world
TheMaskedMan00
So here’s the situation, me and my friend have been working on a world and it is going very well. It’s getting really popular but the only issue is that me and him are in complete different time zones, and so we aren’t usually on at the same time, and since the world is uploaded under his account, it’s impossible for me to moderate the instances, and some people just don’t read the intro and assume I’m a hacker when I join cause I have all permissions, and just kick me.
I propose a solution:
A system tag or something similar for worlds, where you can specify user id(s) of people who co create the world, and they will have the same permissions as the person who uploaded the world, apart from deleting the world and such.
Maybe also some settings like displaying the co owners name under the world where it shows creator, allowing co owners to upload/update the world from their account, allowing specific permissions similar to how groups work.
I can’t be the only one who thinks this, and there’s probably already a canny about this which I cannot find.
I don’t think it would be too hard to implement, there’s already room for more users in the world creator section, system tags are, well, system tags.
And not to mention it would save us having to send the project back and forth constantly.
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TheMaskedMan00
I have since Updated this idea and created a google slideshow to make it easier to explain: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Wr36j1R8DflzsfrNNDelLMsENWEo72ti4ad3m_Y3lxU/edit?usp=sharing
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Gavececnyv
ya i dont think this is a good idea
TheMaskedMan00
Gavececnyvthen explain
Fairplex
Having co-creators visibility and permissions is really a good idea. Upvoted!
vavassor
I do commissions for commissioners who don't know how to or don't want to upload the world themselves. And I wouldn't be able to upload to their account without them giving me their account credentials, which is insecure. I know avatar creators face the same issue making avatars for others.
A co-creator system would be a solution. They could add me as co-creator and then I could do the upload.
This idea implies similar features to groups. Like you'd need a "primary creator" like a group owner. They'd want to be able to remove co-creators. Ideally also you'd be able to transfer who's the primary creator, for example if they wanted to pass off maintaining a world to someone else.
TheMaskedMan00
vavassorthats exactly what I had in mind
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Snaype Orochi
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Eliх
Y E S . As a world creator, I 100% need it. I've been working on a project with my friend, but people have no idea about them, participating in the development.
Ѕnowy
This idea opens up a lot of potential for abuse of power, which there is already way too much of in VRChat.
I will have to downvote this idea.
TheMaskedMan00
Ѕnowydownvoting isnt even a thing?? also how, it would be controlled by the original creator of the world.
Ѕnowy
TheMaskedMan00 A world creator has the ability to kick people from any instance type if I'm not mistaken, public and private.
This is already an excessive and unjustifiable amount of power to have, and you're wanting that same power to be assignable to potentially any person of their choosing, maybe even several or dozens of people, this has far-reaching implications and certainly goes against the spirit of VRChat.
TheMaskedMan00
Ѕnowyso ur ok with people coming into the world you created and cause a ruckus and not be able to do anything?
Ѕnowy
TheMaskedMan00 There are plenty of better and more effective alternatives to unilaterally deciding to kick someone. I've seen countless Group moderators and world creators abuse this power against others, this kind of mentality isn't so different from someone crashing others for petty reasons, I would actually say that it's worse.
Having the power to kick someone from an instance of a world is effectively having the power to tell someone you can't play VRChat anymore in some cases.
That's only something VRChat themselves should be able to decide, based on a proper investigation with evidence and due process.
As much as I'm against vote kicks, even those would be a better option in the situation you're talking about. Blocking and muting are also very effective, trolls aren't going to stick around if everyone has them blocked.
TheMaskedMan00
Ѕnowy I understand your opinion, however I think that you are forgetting the fact that anyone can make a group regardless if they are a respectable creator or not (as long as they have vrchat plus)
For worlds it’s different. Groups can make an instance in any world, it doesn’t matter who made it, this is why I think your opinion is biased. For my idea on world co ownership, it will only span for that specific world.
Worlds aren’t like groups, you have to be popular enough and have a world that people like to have people in your world. If people don’t like your world they just go to a different one. With groups they just go around making instances for all sorts of worlds.
What I’m getting at is that you have probably experienced immature “adults” having moderator privileges or heck even owner of the group, and abusing their power cause they are just so immature. Heck there was a group hosting in our bar and one of the moderators was 11! My boss told them to get out and SHE KICKED HIM. Just a pure example on how groups are just so much different.
There won’t be as much (if any) power abuse with my solution because the only worlds that people regularly visit are the ones created by people who aren’t immature man children. They are created by well known people in the community and (most of the time) are really nice people.
TheMaskedMan00
Ѕnowyalso I have a system in my world that jails people if they block staff (all udon) because I’ve done some research and found that the instance and my code breaks when people have other people blocked as crucial data doesn’t get sent over to blocked players and vice versa. Causing some objects to just spaz out and some udon behaviours to crash.
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FleetFenrirStar
I Approve of this you got my vote buddy
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koiwі
Really good idea! Would be very handy