Latest updates messed with Pre Existing Physbones
available in future release
๑Ҝɨʇɍɨ๑
- anything with a long strand of bones
- Use them.
I'm a virtual Flow artist and after the new update, pysbones are now acting choppy and jittery. Below is a gif of me using my cyber flows that I listed a couple weeks ago and the movement they made. The video on the other hand is after the new update that brought the drone and dolly. this affects me as a dancer. while it's most noticeably seen on flow toys it is also seen on tails and hair to some extent. We have also noticed choppiness on a piece of clothing such as a Kimono and long dresses.
Adding on, Included the ID of the Feline avatar with the same flow toys to test along with several other flow toys that have also been affected
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I see this has been resolved in the beta. Is the functionality there a rollback or a fix that'll be going forward?
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П I П ΛIf it is in Beta it will be released onto the live at some point soon in the future. the open beta is live though and compatible with the live version of vrchat so you can see your friends.
П I П Λ
๑Ҝɨʇɍɨ๑ not really my question, but thanks for replying. <3 I was asking if the fix currently in the beta was done by a code rollback to the previous iteration of Physbones code, or a fix to the new 'optimized' version.
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Following in DoctorMystic's path, I too provide a list of all my avatars that are affected by this change.
avtr_b71ca28e-3635-49d9-8b68-74e4dd8e25fd,Njna Grimsdottir - 2025 ULTRA
avtr_84981e6f-4538-42da-8118-5d76cb222502,Gyo Grimsdottir - ULTRA
avtr_0031e28b-e669-4fd0-86f5-d15a2a73c687,OPTI- Gyo Grimsdottir
avtr_19c55d1c-3b19-4dde-87a6-41bfb4dc51a8,Hana Grimsdottir
avtr_a3b696e3-cf4f-4a5e-99e5-b29d035e4546,Nama Dottiesdottir 2025 - DanceBunny Edition
avtr_ed3295ea-abb4-45ea-a2c8-cf060a999ec6,Shrimpina Dottiesdottir
avtr_91114454-8609-4ae4-8ddb-f550f89c9276,Nama Dottiesdottir 2025
avtr_1e07bb7a-8c21-43fa-9a41-78a26641bfeb,Njna Grimsdottir 2025 - Chained v2
avtr_78662a21-3977-4869-9b0a-bad45a0dc5aa,Njna Cherry MYTH
avtr_2e3374eb-de4f-47eb-8028-423e2f8ea091,3Vee Fluxsdottir
avtr_b0d7eced-cba5-440b-a01a-b4d190a339e6,Njna Koiwisdottir
avtr_a0670489-397d-4c81-b0ff-5dc4bee5210a,Naughty Dottiesdottir
avtr_309376c5-9cfa-400c-b9ae-556c073b6746,Meido Dottiesdottir
avtr_61ae2d44-2113-499e-9a0a-d2653a2f4dc6,Suka Dottiesdottir
avtr_8dec46f4-5c30-4259-9033-424496978668,Njna Grimsdottir (Caster)
avtr_437fb72f-108d-465a-a83b-50feb1e79bed,Bee Dottiiesdottir NODPS
avtr_9ec703ac-192c-4e9a-a585-f039c85a5eaf,Bree Dottiesdottir
avtr_83aa604a-e369-46c0-8413-eaffbf5234ce,Jingle Daisysdottir
avtr_b1141518-3ee0-4650-a9c0-9a7117388ee7,Cherry Koiwisdottir 2025
avtr_ec9c1a7e-f1cd-4df0-8be9-dbe1be4b3525,Harmony Pursusdottir
avtr_ce013a22-1f51-4cf2-af08-c9c10d3eaa52,Njna Grimsdottir 2025 - Chained Queen
avtr_5d0dfeec-a128-4f94-91e0-21b81e91277a,Haze Bunnisudottir
avtr_c0a544d5-5f27-47cf-a476-57237cc8806b,Bones Daisysdottir
avtr_fd6e44de-9ef5-438e-8659-95cb44d279e8,Nari Weekesdottir
avtr_d3a45129-8d3a-46e0-9735-a4de260c2d5b,April Weekesdottir
avtr_e0d7f217-3181-414f-9bcf-d4a600b5eaa6,Kandy Weekesdottir
avtr_f16ae22b-04ed-46f0-91b7-a5a9536bf05a,Kichi Weekesdottir
avtr_0ee5c7fa-acb1-4358-a11d-faf328a16d6f,Brooke - ULTRA
avtr_fc9ec347-9fb5-40f0-b836-d0088f11e617,Lumi - ULTRA Caster
avtr_0df33b68-7098-404b-bd87-96e509987186,Mjrn - Divine Machinery Replicant
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continued.
avtr_64758f42-bf5d-404a-90e7-71ac29ef09b4,Kenzie Grimsdottir
avtr_e1e03cfe-d63a-49f9-b060-fc5c7ab76c6f,Summer Daisysdottir (mk2)
avtr_315cb5e8-7910-41a3-8c51-286d9ba2a82f,Firebun Grimsdottir
avtr_41b3ccec-4cf4-4ca4-9c0b-7025a679d8fe,Firefox (Opti) Dottiesdottir
avtr_1c13aad0-62a0-4d48-a191-82daeaa8a184,Firefox Dottiesdottir
avtr_d0dac5b6-e29b-4133-885d-783ea48529f8,Naoki Nexedition
avtr_731b5281-aec8-483f-a967-354349341f62,Njna Grimsdottir (Opti v1)
avtr_e2d95cad-1850-474e-b49b-7628099dd8e4,Jenna Dottiesdottir (CLUB)
avtr_1670d266-5e95-4c83-8c24-8fb37027ac40,Jenna Dottiesdottir
avtr_524ff92d-2769-4dc6-aa46-fd869ef63780,Mina Daisysdottir (v2)
avtr_1eec9272-2cb7-4754-9f0b-54512446b1d1,Mina Daisysdottir
avtr_fb56b3f0-d317-4a8d-8fca-2b4e5de673ab,Nawiko Ultradottir
avtr_b2e82fb9-bdde-43ad-9e6a-d37e2eb7a123,Sugar Weekesdottir {NoLights](VRCLens)
avtr_5281d109-a44f-4758-86f5-ac398e1db36e,Sari - ULTRA
avtr_d782ead4-f53a-4289-b540-2e2f28703f8b,Sari Dottiesdottir (ORBED)
avtr_e9c91591-5616-4b46-856b-8307a509a76c,Sari Dottiesdottir (Bunnified)
avtr_5ea40111-16c9-4380-96bb-90d10f92c90f,Opium Xerosdottir (NoSPS)
avtr_80be4f63-334b-45f2-8a43-1c90ca21fb44,Pupster Dottiesdottir (Dancer)
avtr_d2c6879d-2e54-415b-b4ad-e2d4e6446839,Pupster Dottiesdottir
avtr_2c1bf51c-e53a-43ac-b344-2e4680e33f75,Njna Grimsdottir 2024 - SUKICore 1.1
avtr_8306b92d-078a-4074-9e9e-cf1303550abc,Njna Grimsdottir (SUKICORE)
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Continued.
DoctorMystic
П I П Λ Dude thank you!! Felt kinda bad but also its every avatar with long bones and I just really wanted to get that message across xDD, they have now updated the post to ig have an available fix in a future update :D
NovaPie
I have noticed bone issues with a few of my models. I will provide the id of my model ive noticed has been most effected which had not given me issues before the update.
Ive seen issues with:
- the lantern dragons(Flow toy)
- the kimono sleeves - i had no issues with them prior to the update and feel like my model is currently unusable because of the changes.
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DoctorMystic
These are all of the following avatars I took a long while getting together just to prove a point that we all are here for;
There is a larger issue on hand than just checking some user's avatar IDs.
Here is every single avatar with physbone issues that you guys asked for, on just my account alone.
There are thousands of us.
Anyway.
ALL LISTED IDS ARE AVATARS WITH PHYSBONE JITTER ISSUES SINCE THE UPDATE:
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DoctorMystic
Ah-
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DoctorMystic
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DoctorMystic
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Its really bad with the water flow-toys, like on this avi (avtr_811ca791-c444-4952-bf7a-07d134779736)
It makes me sad bc flow toys are my fav thing to dance with as an fbt with disabilities. They help me use my arms more and its very therapeutic to just watch them flow in time :(
The jitter is so bad that unless i make very slow, LARGE movements it just jitters and snaps around. Not fun at all.
x0Guardian0x
For example with allot of my avatars, example: avtr_3687dc78-7ab0-4a6f-846e-c6a6436e110f , Her flow toys are extremely jittery and spasm whenever they stand still it's just unpleasant to look at
П I П Λ
This issue doesn't require a list of effected avatar IDs. ALL avatars with long hair, tails, any flow toys, chains anything more than like 3 physbone segments long moves with the parent now and THEN flows after. The entire child structure moves in 3 space with the parent node and then propagtes down the chain showing nearly 0 world connectivity or momentum to move to the new location. I've tested nearly 70 avatars now to verify this. Just roll the change back until this is sorted in beta. Please.
DoctorMystic
П I П Λ this, they keep asking for avatar lists but thats not gonna solve the problem, its every single avatar with long bones.
Kimochi
The jittering is almost like as if the bones were trying to stay stiff for half a second.
You can see that if the issue exists on hairbones and youre rotating your head, the bones will rotate with the head for a split second instead of falling down with Gravity.
I am assuming therefore that the issue is that the physbones seem to update very slowly when moved by their parent bones.
Tony_Lewis
Please make sure to always put avatar ID (public/private both works) which has issue with.
Those issue can be specific to spefic pattern of your avatars and dev may not aware it unless you put it.
If you don't put it, don't cry when not patched as you don't show example so.
๑Ҝɨʇɍɨ๑
Tony_Lewis I have a private avatar ID in my post. It is there and people have also shared ID's in the comments of their own avatars. I did it the day of as someone suggest for me to do so a week ago.
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