Persona and All Third-Party ID Age Verification Services Are a Huge Risk to Data Privacy and Cybersecurity
GForceAce
To put this plain and simple to start:
The idea of verifying one's age to gain access to more secure and moderated groups and instances sounds like a good idea at first. However, your current method of age verification (Persona, and frankly any 3rd-party ID Verification service) is, and has already proven to be, an incredible risk to everyone's data privacy and cybersecurity.
(Now onto the lengthy part)
Persona has been recorded gathering more information other than Age such as: name, address, gender, marital status, and similar demographic details, Social Security Numbers, IP address, device type, your device’s operating system, browser, cookie and device identifiers, and other software including type, version, language, settings, and configuration, geolocation data such as city, state, and country, etc. Persona also has ties to the government data analytics company Palantir. Persona has also been caught building profiles on users and sharing said profiles with the US government and government organizations such as ICE, even having a flagging system to flag users that seemed suspicious. It was also discovered that 269 different checks were used for verification, including things like phone carrier queries and death record matching, and with their privacy policy hiding these checks under vague terms like "public government documents".
So this all means that even though Persona says that all data is deleted within the first 3 days (or in some cases, up to 3 years), that data has already been passed off to third-party partners and the US government and does not get deleted. To further prove my point, Other age verification services have had multiple mass breaches of personal information, such as pictures of IDs, Biometric Face Scan data, and more. For example: Infutor, which had a massive data breach where 676,798,866 unique American citizens (including deceased persons) had their data exposed, including full names, date of birth, addresses, cities, state, ZIP codes, phone numbers, and social security numbers. IDMerit also had about 1 billion personal records leaked throughout the world.
I am completely unwilling to put my personal data and cybersecurity at risk for a little logo that tells others that I'm over 18. But I believe that there are possible, safer alternatives for age verification
My first thought for alternatives is, of course, manual age verification checks performed by VRChat's safety team. This is obviously never going to happen because this would take forever, hiring enough staff members to review all of these age verification requests would be too expensive, and this also comes with security risks. So my next Idea is credit card-based age verification. This is, in my opinion, the best of both worlds. The majority of countries across the world require you to be at least 18 years of age to get a credit card, and currently, you need to have an active VRC+ membership to age-verify. There could very well be a system where if the user pays for a VRC+ membership using a credit card, then they become automatically eligible for the age-verified status. This is personally how I would like to verify my age. I don't currently have a credit card, but I am willing to wait until both I have a credit card and until you get a system like this put in place. But until that day comes, I will never age-verify using Persona or any other ID Verification service.
I hope you take everything that I have said into serious consideration moving forward.
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WubTheCaptain
OP's feedback contains misinformation which has been addressed by both Rick Song and celeste. I'm not going to rehearse it here, but rather hyperlink to some URLs directly.
- https://vmfunc.re/blog/persona-2
- https://ask.vrchat.com/t/developer-update-19-february-2026/47849/34
- https://xcancel.com/rickcsong/status/2026420367603151162
- https://xcancel.com/rickcsong/status/2028879359478775898
Credit card numbers / names do not prove ownership of identity, so other age assurance methods are still required.
As a counter-argument to OP: Manual age verification checks on the Internet are the worst of all for privacy, increasing the time of exposure between an user attaching an ID to a support ticket and the support agent reviewing the ID. Thank Persona and other age assurance companies for fixing that issue and not making us be stuck in early 2000s.
ckochi
WubTheCaptain I'm not going to say OP is right all about it, but don't these sources just saying 'it wasn't complete made-up. Suspicion was denied, But also it is blackbox'?
Agree with you, with that point that manual id check isn't good either. But it doesn't make Persona look better. But if I trusted Persona, it would be decent one of worst options.
I have a question to you, why do you need to stick with identity verification?
Because, any identity verification looks off to me, especially this is not a platform like Facebook which is designed to show your name face, school, job etc. Of course, if I trusted Persona and VRChat, I'd believe that those information would never leave their hands until it gets deleted. But who knows? How can you put trust on them if you do?
WubTheCaptain
ckochi Ask how you can trust a fast food service worker behind the counter to not poison your fast food. The liabilities and chances of getting caught of malice are too high.
ckochi
WubTheCaptain Can you give me more examples? I might not be understanding how it isn't a problem. While I know they wouldn't do anything to me, I'm not certain. How do you trust them?